Martin Klaasen: 照明設(shè)計是為人而做，而不是為了應(yīng)付照度計！

　　MARTIN is an award winning lighting designer, design consultant, lecturer and resource speaker with more than 30 years of experience in the lighting industry. Martin has a master’s degree in industrial design and started his career of many years in creative and innovative lighting design with Philips (in Holland and overseas). He furthered his career by setting up his own lighting consultancy practice first with Lumino Design based in Singapore, later in Australia with Lighting Images. A few years ago Martin decided to apply his passion for lighting design exclusively through his own company, Klaasen Lighting Design (KLD). Martin brings to his designs a unique awareness of lighting technologies mixed with great creativity and a sense of innovation that improve and enhance the quality of lighting in professional installations. Some of his designs have received national and international lighting design awards. The list of his expertise and experiences spans all applications and projects around the globe. He has been involved with his company in several high profile projects around Asia Pacific from China to Australia and from India to the Philippines. To his credits are the lighting design of the Petronas Twin Towers in Kuala Lumpur and the Raffles Hotel restoration in Singapore.

　　Martin Klaasen從事照明行業(yè)超過30年，既是照明設(shè)計師、設(shè)計顧問，同時也是一位講師。他畢業(yè)于工業(yè)設(shè)計專業(yè)，在飛利浦工作成為了他的照明事業(yè)的開端。幾年后，他先后與新加坡Lumino設(shè)計公司、澳大利亞Lighting Images公司合作成立照明咨詢公司。直到幾年前，Martin成立了自己的設(shè)計公司KLD，專注于燈光設(shè)計。將他對照明技術(shù)的獨特理解和創(chuàng)新意識融入到設(shè)計當中，大大提高了燈具設(shè)備的質(zhì)量和專業(yè)程度。他的知識和經(jīng)驗在全球的項目應(yīng)用中傳播，其設(shè)計作品也獲得了當?shù)睾蛧H上的照明獎項。從中國到澳大利亞，從印度到菲律賓，KLD在亞太地區(qū)的設(shè)計項目引起了高度關(guān)注，其中翹楚當屬吉隆坡石油雙塔和新加坡萊佛士酒店。

　　Martin is also passionate about sharing his knowledge by educating his clients and the public through his many articles in the media and more recently his daily blog, Light Talk. Martin is the author of Light Talk, a year in the life of light, the book of the same name that has been received by his peers to much acclaim. He is also a member of the International Advisory Council of the Chinese Lighting Designers Association (CLDA) who support and provide their international expertise in developing sustainable lighting design in China and Asia Pacific. Martin is also a professional member of the IALD (International Association of Lighting Designers) and IES WA (Illuminating and Engineering Society; Western Australia) and a sought after resource speaker at lighting related events, conferences, conventions and seminars.

　　同時，Martin也通過文章、個人博客“Light Talk”與顧客和大眾分享自己的設(shè)計心得。Light Talk記載了一年365天關(guān)于燈光的故事，其同名書籍獲得業(yè)內(nèi)的盛贊。Martin是IALD國際照明設(shè)計師協(xié)會的專業(yè)會員、澳大利亞IES照明工程學會會員，也被CLDA華人照明設(shè)計師聯(lián)合會聘為國際顧問委員，為中國乃至亞太地區(qū)的可持續(xù)照明設(shè)計提供幫助和支持。此外，他還是一位致力于知識交流和傳播的講師，積極參加國際上照明相關(guān)學術(shù)會議、論壇、研討會等活動。

　　Alighting Design: How did you get into the lighting industry?

　　《阿拉丁·設(shè)計》：您是怎樣進入照明行業(yè)的?

　　MK: Quite by accident, actually. When I freshly graduated from my masters degree in Industrial Design, I applied for some jobs on offer at Philips in Eindhoven, a big Dutch multi-national company active in professional and consumer products. Out of the blue they offered me a position lighting designer at their Lighting Design and Application Centre. I had no idea what lighting design was at the time (my first thought was that of designing light bulbs), but after visiting their offices I discovered the exciting lighting projects they were doing all over the world including the Olympic Games. I was immediately hooked and took the job. I never looked back. That was in 1979!

　　MK：事實上真的純屬偶然。當時我初出茅廬，獲得工業(yè)設(shè)計學士學位之后就向埃因霍溫的飛利浦公司提交了工作申請。這是一個專注于專業(yè)產(chǎn)品和消費品的荷蘭跨國公司，出乎我的意料，他們提供給我的職位是照明設(shè)計與應(yīng)用中心的燈光設(shè)計師。當時我也不知道燈光設(shè)計是什么，甚至以為就是設(shè)計燈泡的。但在參觀了他們的工作室之后，我發(fā)現(xiàn)這個團隊正做著令人驚嘆的事情，其中還包括了奧運會的燈光設(shè)計項目，我簡直為之傾倒。我很少回顧過去，那是1979年的事了。

　　Alighting Design: What is your design philosophy?

　　《阿拉丁·設(shè)計》：您的設(shè)計理念是什么?

　　MK: My design philosophy is really to let the lighting do the talking, in other words lighting has to emphasize the task it is supposed to perform, has to create the moods and ambiance. I don’t really want to see the lights themselves but its resulting lighting effect. As such I never start my design with the products but rather with the lighting effects that I want to achieve and then work backwards to my product selection. Of course this requires an in-depth knowledge and understanding of what can be achieved with light and lighting products, but after more than 30 years in the business I can confidently say that I do, though continuous updating yourself of what is available and possible is imperative. Hence I always have an open door policy towards the lighting manufacturers.

　　MK：我認為必須讓燈光“說話”。換句話說，燈光必須做好創(chuàng)造情緒氛圍的角色。我想看到的不是一個個的燈，而是它們營造出來的燈光效果。因此我從來不在設(shè)計開始的時候選擇燈具，我會先設(shè)計好自己想要的效果，再倒推回去選擇適合的產(chǎn)品。當然，前提是你得擁有豐富的知識，并且清楚知道不同的燈具和燈光可以達到什么樣的效果。經(jīng)過超過30年的工作實踐，我可以自豪地說，我可以。但是，不斷提升自己的能力和可能性是必須的。所以，對于燈具制造廠家，我一直抱著開放的心態(tài)。

　　Alighting Design: What do you think is the most important factor in lighting design?

　　《阿拉丁·設(shè)計》：您認為燈光設(shè)計最重要的因素是什么?

　　MK: Without doubt the human factor! We design lighting for people not for lux meters. We design for people with emotions, with feelings, with desires, with specific needs whether it is work, relaxation or other. We don’t see lux levels, we see the light reflected from its surrounding spaces, hence understanding of materials, colours and how it interacts with lighting is crucial for a good lighting design! Too many lighting designers unfortunately focus on lighting levels without understanding the human and spatial implications. Light has volume and as such every good lighting designer also has to anticipate how light will be absorbed by that space, specifically the vertical elements!

　　MK：毫無疑問是“人”!照明設(shè)計是為人而做，而不是為了應(yīng)付照度計!人擁有情感、情緒、欲望，以及各種特殊的需求，比如工作、休息或其他。我們看到的不是照度水平，而是整個燈光環(huán)境，所以材料、顏色以及它們怎樣與照明產(chǎn)生作用是一個好的燈光設(shè)計的關(guān)鍵。很多燈光設(shè)計師都把焦點放在照度水平上，忽略了人的直觀感受和空間的內(nèi)在需求。燈光是有量可循的，一個好的燈光設(shè)計師應(yīng)該提前預(yù)估燈光怎樣被空間特別是直線元素吸收或反射。

　　Alighting Design: You have been working in the lighting industry for 30 years. What’s the biggest change of both the industry and yourself?

　　《阿拉丁·設(shè)計》：您在照明行業(yè)已經(jīng)超過30年，這些年來照明行業(yè)以及您個人最大的變化是什么?

　　MK: When I started the incandescent bulb and the fluorescent tubes where the main tools to design with. Over the years we have seen unbelievable technological developments, unparalleled for any industry. I saw the growth of halogen lamps, metal halide lamps, the introduction of compact fluorescent lamps, induction lighting, fiber optics and now the new world revolution of LED technology. On a personal level that means that I have to re-adjust and re-learn nearly everything that I thought I knew because LED technology is a totally new ball game, with new rules, new definitions, new standards, new assessment and appreciation of qualities. The character of lighting and lighting design has changed radically and the lighting designer of today needs to differentiate between the LED professionals and the LED cowboys who try to benefit from this technology at all costs, a daily challenge!

　　MK：從最開始的白熾燈和熒光燈，我們見證了不可思議的技術(shù)進步。從鹵素燈、金鹵燈、緊湊型熒光燈、感應(yīng)光、纖維光學到新世界革新技術(shù)LED，對個人而言，這意味著我必須重新學習并調(diào)整自我以適應(yīng)這個全新的“游戲”，新的規(guī)則、新的術(shù)語、新的標準，以及新的品質(zhì)評估系統(tǒng)。照明和照明設(shè)計的角色已經(jīng)徹底改變了，照明設(shè)計師必須分清竭盡所能從飛速發(fā)展的技術(shù)中獲益的LED專家和LED“牛仔”，這是我們每天都要面對的挑戰(zhàn)。

　　Alighting Design: We know that you have started a blog named “Light Talk” since 2009, and the first year’s blogging was compiled into a book of the same name. Could you tell us about the blog? Why did you start writing? What purpose do you want to achieve?

　　《阿拉丁·設(shè)計》：您從2009年開始創(chuàng)立名為“Light Talk”的博客，而且第一年的博客內(nèi)容已匯編成書。這是個怎樣的博客?為什么開始寫博客?您想達到什么樣的效果?

　　MK: The blog started as a result of a challenge that I put to myself. Inspired by the film Julie and Julia (with Meryl Streep), where the lead person in the movie decides to try one recipe a day for a whole year from her favorite cooking hero and blog about it. After seeing the movie I thought why not blog every day for 365 days about my life as a lighting designer. I have many different projects, many different clients in many different countries, every project is different, with different people and cultures and comes with its own set of challenges and enjoyments. I decided that PLDC Berlin (a week later) would be the perfect time to start. As it turned out I was never shy of any subject to write about and now more than 5 years later I still write, though in a more compact (weekly) format. It was only after I completed my 365 days and looked at the material I had accumulated that I decided it would be perfect for a book! It has been highly successful and there are now even plans to have it translated in Chinese!

　　MK：這個博客是我給自己的一個挑戰(zhàn)。其實是受到電影《朱莉與朱莉婭》的啟發(fā)，電影主角用一年的時間每天嘗試一份自己最喜歡的烹飪大師的食譜，并且用博客記錄下來。我想，我有那么多的設(shè)計項目，有許多來自不同國家不同文化的不同客戶，工作中伴隨著一系列挑戰(zhàn)和樂趣……為什么不把我作為燈光設(shè)計師的一年365天也記錄下來呢?于是，一周之后的PLDA大會成為了“Light Talk”的起點，從此一發(fā)不可收拾，任何話題都不在話下。直至5年后的今天，我仍然堅持每周寫一篇博客。也是在一年之后，看著累積了365天的文字，我萌生了要匯編成書的念頭。這本書獲得了很大的成功，現(xiàn)在也準備出中文的版本了。

　　Alighting Design: You have clients from different countries. How do you meet the cultural needs of different countries?

　　《阿拉丁·設(shè)計》：您的客戶來自不同國家和地區(qū)，怎樣滿足不同地域的文化需求?

　　MK: The key is to listen to your client, always! A good designer is a good listener. Appreciate the values and culture of your host country, do not try to enforce only what you believe is right! See how things are done in that country, assess if that has merits and marry that with good lighting design that you practice! There are basic professional lighting standards that apply cross border, but implementation needs to be done against the accepted norms and practices in that country. Having said that one of our biggest challenges is to educate our clients in any culture about the benefits of better lighting design, specifically the cost-quality balance, because value for money has different meanings in different countries!

　　MK：關(guān)鍵是你得時刻聆聽客戶的心聲。一個好的設(shè)計師必然是一個很好的傾聽者。領(lǐng)會和尊重項目所在國家的文化和價值觀，做自己認為對的事情。觀察這個國家的行為處事方式，評估其中的優(yōu)劣，配以優(yōu)質(zhì)的燈光設(shè)計?，F(xiàn)行的基本照明專業(yè)標準適用于跨界領(lǐng)域，但在實施的過程中卻不得不違背當?shù)氐哪承┕J的標準和習慣。燈光設(shè)計師最大的挑戰(zhàn)之一是告知我們不同文化背景的客戶，燈光設(shè)計的重要性，特別是成本與質(zhì)量的平衡關(guān)系，因為不同國家對于金錢的價值會有不同的理解。

　　Alighting Design: What impresses you most while working for Chinese clients? What’s the difference from the other clients?

　　《阿拉丁·設(shè)計》：中國客戶給您什么印象?與其他國家的客戶有什么不同?

　　MK: Chinese clients seem in general bolder and more daring when it comes to exploring new concepts, they like something special, appreciate something new, something that will set them apart, contrary to other countries who generally are more conservative in their approach. On the flipside in China specifically the cost quality balance is heavily swayed towards costs. While costs are always an issue in any project and any country, in China specifically budgets seem to be totally inconsiderate of quality. This at times feels contradictory to the innovative and unique projects that are being developed. It is my main and foremost challenge in China and I am sure many of you have the same experience.

　　MK：中國客戶很聰明，也更敢于嘗試創(chuàng)新的概念。他們喜歡新的、特別的東西，因為可以將他們與其他“保守派”區(qū)分開來。但另一方面，在中國，成本與質(zhì)量的天秤很明顯偏向于成本。在任何項目中，成本都是一個重要問題，但在中國，預(yù)算里面似乎完全忽略了質(zhì)量的因素。這看起來跟發(fā)展創(chuàng)新性和唯一性項目的追求背道而馳。這是我在中國最主要的挑戰(zhàn)，相信很多人都有相似的經(jīng)歷。

　　Alighting Design: What do you think of the Asian lighting profession? How about the lighting design industry in China?

　　《阿拉丁·設(shè)計》：您如何看待亞洲照明行業(yè)的發(fā)展狀況?中國的呢?

　　MK: It is without doubt that Asia in general and China specifically has seen an unprecedented growth where lighting design has certainly come of age. The activities of the CLDA, which I support as a member of the International Advisory Council, are testimony of that. While 10-20 years ago foreign lighting designers in Asia/China were the dominant force, we now see a reversal with leading countries such as China and India for instance, now having a big domestic lighting design fraternity.

　　MK：作為CLDA國際咨詢委員會的一員，我可以肯定地說：亞洲，特別是中國的照明設(shè)計近年來經(jīng)歷了史無前例的快速發(fā)展，已經(jīng)日趨成熟。在過去的十幾二十年里，在亞洲，在中國，國外設(shè)計師都是主導力量，但現(xiàn)在情況發(fā)生了逆轉(zhuǎn)，比如中國和印度，現(xiàn)在已經(jīng)擁有了一大批國內(nèi)的照明設(shè)計新力量。

　　Alighting Design: How to balance the functionality and aesthetics in lighting design?

　　《阿拉丁·設(shè)計》：怎樣平衡照明設(shè)計的功能性與美學性?

　　MK: The key here again is the human factor. Once you keep that center to your lighting design approach the balancing and decision making becomes focused and easy, regardless of any project.

　　MK：同樣，關(guān)鍵是“人”。一旦你將“人”置于燈光設(shè)計的核心，無論任何項目，你都可以專注而從容地做好多方的平衡與決策。

　　Alighting Design: Did you do the lighting design for your own house? What is it like?

　　《阿拉丁·設(shè)計》：您有為自己的房子做燈光設(shè)計嗎?是什么樣的?

　　MK: No not really! Because I travel so much with “homes” in several countries I have yet to settle down properly and design my own beautiful lighting at home…it is on my to do list for when I slow down and spent more time at home.

　　MK：沒有。因為我經(jīng)常旅行，在幾個國家都有“家”，我還沒有安定下來并為自己的房子設(shè)計燈光。不過，停下來好好享受居家時光，已經(jīng)在我的待辦事項里了。

　　Alighting Design: Could you share with us some of your favorite projects?

　　《阿拉丁·設(shè)計》：可以跟我們分享一些您最喜愛的項目嗎?

　　MK: Some of my favorite projects are very small but because of that very satisfying as they were executed 100% the way I wanted. In general my favorite projects are those that give me the greatest satisfaction when completed big or small and generally these are the ones that are executed very close to design intent or those that despite strong budget limitations came out really well through our creative value engineering! For instance, Murdoch Art Wall, Fremantle Cliff, Grand Hyatt Goa, Shangri-la Futian Shenzhen.

　　MK：最喜歡的項目都比較小，但都100%是我想要的效果，給了我巨大的滿足感。不論大小，這些項目的實現(xiàn)效果最接近我的設(shè)計意圖，而且盡管在預(yù)算吃緊的情況下，通過我們創(chuàng)造性的工程設(shè)計，項目都能順利展開。比如，默多克藝術(shù)墻，弗里曼特爾懸崖，印度果阿君悅酒店，深圳福田香格里拉大酒店。